What do you think about this graphic?
It should give an easy overview of the architecture of the Fediverse and what it differentiates from old social media.
It’s actually a graphic. I’d put a legend explaining some of the fediverse icons. And 2 sentences explaining that each fediverse icon communicated with other fediverse icons
I just got here but I’ve noticed this platform is much nicer compared to things like reddit. No bots, no ai softcore porn ads. I’ll take the fediverse any day.
Nice to hear. :)
What convinced you to join?
Some people in a left leaning subreddit told me it would be a good backup. Then just yesterday I got perma banned and the admins wouldn’t tell me why. So now I’m here
Welcome :)
Thanks ! They really were right when they said people here are much more pleasant than on reddit lol
Needs more chains and walls between groups in the top picture. And maybe some ransom notes.
This doesn’t explain things well. Lemmy is like a bunch of Reddits communicating with each other. The graphic makes it seem like there is just one Lemmy. Also, are Lemmy posts on Mastodon? Mastodon was largely empty last I checked.
Mastodon users can subscribe to Lemmy communities I think, but it doesn’t really work very well. The Mastodon feed isn’t really made to support threaded content so all the Lemmy comments will fill and mess up your feed.
Also, I really like your username. I learned about that fish from Animal Crossing lol.
I think the ATProtocol is better when it comes to connecting between different social media types. But I think ActivityPub makes better use of different servers.
Though I think something like Lemmy is difficult for both because of how different it is from most other social media types.
I’d say these fall into the same trap that most fediverse explainers fall into — too focused on implementation details, not the experience. The average FB user thinks they’re connecting to friends directly, not really considering the system architecture that powers it.
I’d like a graphic that shows how centralised media blocks connections to others outside thier walled garden.
Interesting. How would you put this into a picture?
My friend (the average social media user) also didn’t seem too interested in it. I can imagine something interesting for the average user in a video but not in an image.
I would add random instance names to the service icons, to show them that the websites are interconnected and not just the services
Largely similar to what you have, but abstracting away the metalware and reframing as human-centric.
If the user is at the center, surrounded by more users, making primary & secondary connections, in an approximate circle shape. You can then show traditional social media owners as wedges of that circle, containing (owning) a fraction of the users & preventing connection to others, vs. Fedi that lets you connect to everyone.
The implementation details matter tho, your instance admin actively makes federation decisions that affect the content. I like to explain joining an instance as pledging yourself to a warlord in medieval Japan
But surely the average Zuckerbook user is not so dumb as to miss what this graphic is describing - a crazy utopia where they could talk to people on TikTok and Xitter as well as Zuckerbook?
In thie fesiverse graphic each person has exactly 1 connection to a fediverse thing. But in reality, there can be more. I guess in practice there are often more than one.
Maybe remove the fediverse in the middle, if I knew nothing about the fediverse it will seem like it is centralized?
John Fediverse is in the middle, holding all the fediverse conmections together.
Is his first name John or Join?
Maybe you can show that we don’t alway federate with every instance with several cloud network.
That’s also part of our freedom :)
Good idea. But I think it’s better to explain that later, when people are already curious :)
It needs a lot more people and lines connecting to the centralize services, like 6+. You have 14 dudes in the fediverse, you should have a similar number of dudes in the traditional centralized social media things. You need to make it clear that every connection between two people goes through that central server. With only 3 or 4 it looks like it’s some kind of small community there, like you’re just saying “communities exist on Facebook” rather than “on Facebook everybody connects to one central Facebook service”. It would also be good to draw a black line around the edge of the bubble to indicate it’s a walled garden rather than an open system.
For the Fediverse example, it would be good to have a slightly darker shaded bubble with people around their local fediverse instance. That would indicate that there are local communities, but that they can still communicate with all the other communities. And, maybe show that people can be part of different communities, show one person connected both to a mastodon instance and a Lemmy instance.
These infographics seem better: https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/get-started
Recently posted on !fediverse@piefed.social
That’s cool but I think that’s too technical for the average social media user
What about this one?
Was on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com at some point:
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2098ca94-7b29-47a4-8c00-80d90dc9eef0.png
So good 👌
That’s cool too, but way too much text for it to be quickly consumed on a small display. This is more for the second stage when people are already curious and want to learn more, in my opinion.
I agree, yours is simpler and to the point. It gets the general idea across quicker. The links for blaze would be follow up things people would look into.
Yea, too much yapping
bad chart
Why?
Don’t pay too much attention https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?userId=1220346
Love it! I’ve saved a copy, because I think it’ll make future explanations a lot easier. Thanks!
For the top services, I’d make each of the blue background circles a different color to better denote that they’re proprietary and incompatible.
For the Fediverse section, you could add Tumblr, and other services who also federate via activity pub to show our interoperability and expansive reach.
Tumblr
Is it already working?
Out of curiosity, has anyone found any more conservative Lemmy communities? I’m always worried that we’ll get folks splitting off of rumble to find purchase here. So far, all of the c/conservative communities have been deliciously consumed by memes, but more is more funni
Damn, conservatism has been completely consumed by MAGA
Wait until you hear about !thenewdonald@lemmyusa.com
I am indescribably proud of my instance. No one has searched for that community yet, and I’m not going to force that revolting load into our server. Upsetting that it seems to be an active community, though.
Lemmy and mastodon are not really connected, I don’t know about the others. I would focus on one protocol (is that the right term here?) and show different instances. I’m not on lemmy to follow mastodon users, it’s a very different concept
But from Mastodon, you can follow and post in Lemmy groups.
You can subscribe to and comment in Lemmy communities from Mastodon.
But you can’t view Mastodon posts from Lemmy.
True. That’s currently not possible