• AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space
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    27 days ago

    The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

    And that’s just not bloody true.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself

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      27 days ago

      I jumped over here a couple weeks ago at the request of another redditor and it’s like a breath of fresh air.

      I still check out reddit for a couple subs that just don’t have enough interaction over here “yet”.

      I’ve mentioned lemmy a couple times over there and got replies like " it’s just too complicated " etc. and now that I think about it they were most likely bots 🤔

      Ima go back to the cesspool and investigate

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        26 days ago

        I jumped over here a couple weeks ago at the request of another redditor and it’s like a breath of fresh air.

        Literally a breath fresh of air is what I can relate to. I also realized how it’s way way smaller in the size of communities and I appreciate it. My other favorite is no advertisement. I am as well trying to introduce a couple of my friends to move over the Lemmy. It is a little bit of a curve to learn, but it’s not as hard.

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          26 days ago

          Seems like a lot of people will be coming from reddit.

          Hopefully some of the niche communities get a little more traffic over here. Most of the subs I visited over there weren’t very toxic and i actually referred to reddit over google for info on a variety of subjects. It’s just hard to support the platform at this point it really went downhill since 14 ~16

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      27 days ago

      Exactly! That’s how people usually argue against the Fediverse. People have literally been indoctrinated into believing the internet is centralised.

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        27 days ago

        Our biggest enemy is actually the bootlicker.

        Once that guy flips the regime will have hard time maintaining legitimacy

        Americans don’t understand the politics of proper opposition and dissent

        Voting for the other guy ain’t it… And it is a lot more than “politics” it is a life style.

        Deny the parasite profit and engagement

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          27 days ago

          Our biggest enemy is actually the bootlicker

          I got a small dose of this at work. My coworker has a safety incident, almost fucked up her hand. She got made the safety champion the next day, and was concerned about the optics.

          My lead told her “don’t worry what they think of you” but brother you are a leader. Public perception is your strongest tool. You absolutely should be worried what we think of you

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      26 days ago

      I’m the type to beat my head against a wall until the wall breaks. Then through that hole, I lead my friends. Fewer and fewer of my friends follow me through such holes. Last time I did such, I brought all my friends to discord (and now I regret it). It is hard as fuck to convince normies to adopt a new platform. If they’re not already invested, it will take a serious investment for them to give half a shit. I was able to get some people on discord by promising them that I was running a dnd campaign (I was at the time, but it fell apart shortly therefafter), and those people haven’t been on discord since.

      How do I convince them that lemmy is the future? I don’t think I can. Fundamentally, lemmy is objectively better than reddit (not for features, but because lemmy won’t ban you for mentioning green mario and other similar administrative bullshits). I wasn’t able to convince them to use reddit back when reddit was good!

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      27 days ago

      Refugee here. Think I’d agree. A subconscious bias / misunderstanding we bought into

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      27 days ago

      I don’t think it’s too complicated, but it is noticeably more complicated than joining traditional social media. People often get immediately freaked out by the whole concept of instances. I know everybody keeps trying to use the email comparison, but that just is not working. People cannot connect the dots between email and something like Instagram.

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        27 days ago

        I remember joining reddit when it had the old interface and thinking that it is super unintuitive and complicated compared to all other social media. This didn’t stop reddit from growing and i don’t think lemmy will be restricted by this in the long run. People generally are just not aware of the fediverse and how it works yet but they will get used to it.

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          27 days ago

          Reddit’s complexity was always vastly overstated. You can login and be posting in seconds in a way that you simply can’t with the fediverse

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            27 days ago

            The only additional step you have on lemmy is choosing an instance and honestly it does not even matter that much which you choose. I’m not saying it’s trivial but it is nothing that is inherently more difficult.

            Reddit was really strange compared to everything else a few years ago. It only appears easy now because we are familiar with the concept of subreddits now.

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                27 days ago

                What I’m trying to say is that every social network has it’s quirks that you just need to learn. The willingness to learn also depends on how attractive the platform is. With time i see no reason for lemmy to not grow like reddit did.

                If you just google “Lemmy” one of the first results is https://join-lemmy.org/ where you are directed to an instance that suits you. Far from perfect but Lemmy is still young.

                People probably don’t even really need to understand federation. They just need sane defaults to get started and work from there.

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            27 days ago

            No you cant, karma requirements bud, try making a new account and posting/commenting anywhere?

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              27 days ago

              I’m down to have a serious conversation but please don’t be patronizing with that “bud” crap

              That also doesn’t make any sense. You can’t get karma without posting or commenting. They put a temporary cap on how frequently you can post. Individual subs sometimes have their own karma threshold rules yes, but they also tell you they do.

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                27 days ago

                I don’t want to have any kind of conversation with you just here to speak my mind and make you reas it