Both don’t ship with their own Wayland compositor, but there are enough to choose from.
Xfce comes with a wayland session using labwc out of the box, but was also tested with Wayfire. The devs state you shouldn’t hold your breath waiting for the native window manager xfwm to be ported into a Wayland compositor, since they don’t know if/when it will be done. Almost all other Xfce components support Wayland now, while retaining X11 compatibility.
LXQt’s newest stable release has full Wayland support, with 7 different Wayland compositors to choose from within a GUI settings menu: Labwc, KWin, Wayfire, Hyprland, Sway, River and Niri
https://xfce.org/about/news/?post=1734220800
https://lxqt-project.org/release/2024/11/05/release-lxqt-2-1-0/
Support might be a strong word.
For what it’s worth, they have experimental Wayland support. It’s an important distinction. For example, Cinnamon has experimental Wayland support IIRC and last time I tried setting up a lock screen on my ThinkPad (you know, for security purposes, since it’s a laptop and all) I wasn’t able to get one working.
what distros are confident enough to enable it by default atm?
Fedora, so most Gnome based distros. KDE as commented beside me. Arch-based EndeavourOS.
what about xfce/lxqt?
KDE Neon and kubuntu have Wayland as default. Just was trying them because I wanted Plasma 6. Took a bit of tweaking for a few things but I have all the things I need running fine with Wayland.
If it ships, Arch will have it immediately.
That’s actually fucking rad.
XFCE only mostly though. Stuff like tray and xfwm (the window manager) not yet.
sway, wayfire, river, hyprland and labwc are standalone wayland compositors. why we need desktop environments inside them!
A compositor is normally a component in a DE, not a DE on its own. For it to be a DE in my book the “standalone” installation needs to, at minimum, provide: a launcher to execute apps, a toolbar/statusbar, and maybe a terminal emulator (or at least call some generic wrapper to automatically hook into one, something like xdg-terminal-exec).
I mean… openbox is used in X11 desktop environments like LXDE… I don’t see why labwc (essentially wayland’s openbox) should be treated like it cannot be a component of one.
And river has almost as a mission statement to become more of a framework than a DE on its own… they even have the goal in the long term to remove things from it and instead expose more to the commands/API to make it more modular… it’s definitely not something intended to work standalone and they expect people to develop third party layout generator programs.
Maybe sway is the one in that list that might be the most “standalone”, since it does have swaybar built-in… but the default configuration still expects you to provide at least something like dmenu to use as launcher, as well as making sure you have your terminal, etc, since it does not list them as specific dependencies of the sway package, so officially they aren’t really part of sway as if it were a DE suite.
I’m so excited for Wayland xfce but my laptop is really old and probably cant run Wayland as well as x11.
I don’t think a Wayland compositor needs any more resources than a window manager plus X server.
Great news hope to see Wayland being more popular
I don’t know if it’s been updated recently, but take into account that LXQT doesn’t support global shortcuts yet ☝️
It works well, but it’s still missing features; as they say: it’s experimental right now.
Openbox (LXQt’s wm under Xorg) does support global shortcuts.
And labwc supports rc.xml so it should support global shortcuts as well.
Thanks for pointing that out. I think some are also supported in KWin:)
But its really hard to config, i dont know the codes or format
If you can’t edit XML use nice GUI lxhotkey or obkey instead
Might push to run Sway + XFCE on my laptop, opposed to i3 + XFCE
When I first started using KDE and Sway I was so used to the Xfce apps that I installed the xfce4-goodies, running on top of Wayland. So fucking good memories.
I’m currently using sway/ mate on my chromebook. Ii like the idea of not switching between Wayland & x11 when switching DE’s
LXQT on niri could be quite interesting